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Subject	Author	Date
Published: January 2007
Re: RE: Sick Sheep Originally from: Sue Burton Hi Frances, Thanks for your kind words. As if that wasn't bad enough – I received the call about EMMA just as I was dealing with BILLY one of our 17hh horses who was down with severe colic. Our equine Vet was just putting him to sleep when the call came from our Farm Vet,so I had to stay with BILLY till he was dead and then straight over to be with EMMA while she was put to sleep.	Nigel Cannings	14 January 2007 04:52
RE: Sick Sheep Originally from: frances fish Sue, I am so very sorry. You and your vet, tried so hard to find out what ailed her but,some things just aren't meant to be, no matter how hard you try. Frances	Nigel Cannings	14 January 2007 04:52
RE: Sick Sheep Originally from: frances fish Hi Sue, we will be thinking of you and Emma. Good luck and we shall all keep our fingers crossed. Hope you find out whats causing her problem and, more importantly solve it.	Nigel Cannings	14 January 2007 04:52
Re: RE: SICK SHEEP Originally from: Bill In tetany the bloating is due to enteritis, ie. the bloating is intestinal rather than gastric. The fluid test you reccommended should determine whether or not it's gas or fluid. Convulsions do happen in tetany, hence the tendancy to confuse with epilepsy, but convulsions causing colic are not always perceptible to the observer.	Nigel Cannings	14 January 2007 04:52
RE: SICK SHEEP Originally from: frances fish Hi Bill, Would the sheep not be having convulsions ? I seem to recall that is a sympton ?Wouldn't that show up in the bloods ? I think that the sheep does not have bloat which is excess gas, usually from problems with the rumen, but ascites, which, as you know, is fluid and a different ball-game ?	Nigel Cannings	14 January 2007 04:52
Re: SICK SHEEP Originally from: Bill I'm stickong with tetany, Val and Frances. The substratum in the Buxton area is carboniferous limestone so the animal was reared on a high calcium diet. Tetany can explain colic, head pressing, and bloating whereas other explanations cannot.	Nigel Cannings	14 January 2007 04:52
Re: SICK SHEEP Originally from: Val Collinson Hi Sue My money's still on traumatic reticulitis caused by ingestion of a foreign body such as a nail or wire. Such items get caught in the reticulum (second stomach) because of its honey-comb structure. Movement of the object as a result of normal peristaltic contractions would cause intermittent pain. This would also be consistent with raised white blood count because it could cause localised peritonitis.	Nigel Cannings	14 January 2007 04:52
RE: Sick Sheep Originally from: frances fish Hello again Sue, You say your sheep has fluid in the tissues ? Would this be more so in the abdominal area ? Its called ascites and means that fluid is leaking into the abdominal cavity. Your vet should have demonstrated a "fluid thrill" to you by holding a hand one side of the belly and flicking the other, you can actually feel the wave ! This condition is usually associated with liver damage or I'm afraid the big "C".	Nigel Cannings	14 January 2007 04:52
Re: SICK SHEEP Originally from: Bill Interesting reply, Sue. I was thinking that maybe you used phosphate fertilizers which had triggered the reaction. (On the basis the animal had established a tolerance to high calcium while in Derby and the move ( change in phosphate balance) had somehow triggered the reaction.	Nigel Cannings	14 January 2007 04:52
SICK SHEEP Originally from: Sue Burton Many thanks to Bill, Sue & Frances for your thoughts regarding EMMA our sick sheep. I do value your time and effort and help with this. To answer some of your points where I can:- I was slightly wrong geographically as to where the sheep originated from- They are from Buxton at a height of 500 metres and in a gritstone area.	Nigel Cannings	14 January 2007 04:51
SICK SHEEP Originally from: Sue Burton Hello Everyone, Thank you all so much for your time and trouble in writing down your thoughts regarding our sick sheep – EMMA. I fully appreciate your efforts. TODAYS UPDATE X-rays could not get through her fat and therefore showed nothing Scan showed nothing A blood smear showed new white cells indicative of infection but is that infection along the lines of pymetra or is that a foreign body which is causing...	Nigel Cannings	14 January 2007 04:51
Re: SICK SHEEP Originally from: Bill The convulsions associated with tetany originate from electrical abnormalities in the forebrain, which possibly explains why the animal is pressing its head against wall/tree/gatepost.	Nigel Cannings	14 January 2007 04:51
Re: RE: SICK SHEEP Originally from: Bill I'll go along with Mark Purdey in that the problem is most likely nutritional. The sheep came from Derby (limestone soils) so maybe there is a possibility of phosphorous-calcium imbalance. Phosphorous-calcium imbalance causes a serious muscular condition called hypocalcemic tetany (colic type pain), excessive calcification of bones and tissues (laminitis), constipation, nausea, hyperactive stomach, and bloating.	Nigel Cannings	14 January 2007 04:51
SICK SHEEP Originally from: Sue Furness Hi Sue, Mine is a completely different theory. You say she was bloated. Did the vet use a canula or large hypodermic needle to let the gas out of her, and if so was much released? Is the sheep passing normal faeces? I keep Soays and this reminds me of the way several of them have died, though never as young as five years old. I?m told the condition is due to an ?inverted gut?	Nigel Cannings	14 January 2007 04:51
Re: SICK SHEEP Originally from: coleen HI Sue Hope all goes well for her. Col	Nigel Cannings	14 January 2007 04:51
RE: SICK SHEEP Originally from: frances fish Hi Sue, We keep wensleydales and have never seen a fat one. This would take a tremendous amount of doing and a shovel for the food . Clearly something other than obesity going on here. Could she be diabetic ?Normal diseases we can get, sheep can get.She would be more prone to infection because of it. Head against wall and obvious pain suggests colic perhaps ? Also had to deal with laminitis in our flock.	Nigel Cannings	14 January 2007 04:51
Re: SICK SHEEP Originally from: Sue Burton Hi Coleen, So sorry Coleen. SHe has been kept with two other sheep and two other goats prior to coming to us and all six came here and they are certainly showing now signs. Just spoke with Vet and we are taking her in for x-rays and a scan tomorrow so heres hoping! Thanks Coleen.	Nigel Cannings	14 January 2007 04:51
Re: SICK SHEEP Originally from: Sue Burton Will look into that possibility – thanks Coleen. Sue	Nigel Cannings	14 January 2007 04:51
Re: SICK SHEEP Originally from: coleen Any chance the sheep could have a tick born disease (that could answer the white blood cell count) Some of these can manifest as laminitis like systems, in later stages. Coleen	Nigel Cannings	14 January 2007 04:51
Re: SICK SHEEP Originally from: Sue Burton Hi Coleen, She arrived on 25th August.Certainly there is no other sheep or goat showing any symptoms along these lines. We have never had any health problems with our sheep or goats except for the occasional bout of orfs disease. They have always been a very healthy flock.	Nigel Cannings	14 January 2007 04:51

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