Re. Fw RSPCA 30 Jul

Originally from: Richard Mawdsley
                        
Colleen is quite right in bringing to our attention the proposed new powers of the RSPCA. Quite illegal I would have thought. They are a registered charity and we must now challenge their charitable status. As political lobby groups, they, the RSPB and others, are alrady in a doubtful position.

As owner/manager of a neighbouring, and allied site can I bring my group to your attention? This RSPCA business is outside our remit, but I will post it on our site nevertheless.

 www.smartgroups.com/groups/conservationwatch

 Ricgard Mawdsley.
                        

Originally from: coleen
                        
Hi Richard

Clarrification was asked for by the person who first drew this to our attention – this is what he/they have sent back. It would seem that they were involved (not sure what level) regarding consultation of this document (see reply below)
.
"http://www.defra.gov.uk/animalh/welfare/farmed/on-farm.htm
 gives the guidance notes.
The Draft animal welfare bill which we have consulted on does not mention the approved prosecutor Status but reading page 33 of the Draft shows that there will be an appointment of Inspectors by local Authority but shall have guidance issued by the Secretary of State ( who issued the Approved prosecutor Status.
It does not take much working out that the appointment of Inspectors will be taken up by the RSPCA giving them total control of most if not all aspects of the New Animal Welfare Bill.
This is the serious concern amongst many Pet and companion animal keepers."

Hope this helps
 Andy Meads

Yes please do cross post this message – and many of us on this board do have companion animals etc etc as well as livestock. After seeing the horrors of fmd we would be foolish to think 'this could never happen to our animals'! Plus we are all already aware that that legislation is in place for DEFRA to seize any animal without our consent if a disease should break-out and threaten other animal life, or human life.

Thanks
Coleen

Originally from: David Oakes
                        
Hi Coleen,
Thanks for keeping up the good work.I now have a community
farm up and running, and I will let all the good people know what is going on here.And I will try and get my local paper in on the act,there is some local shows comming up, I will try and get a petition up and running ,thanks Coleen.
 David Oakes
 Hearts of Britain
 Offerton Community Farm
 A Tribute to Those Animals Lost to FMD

From: "Coleen Taylor" <...>
Date: 2004/08/01 Sun AM 09:54:22 GMT
To: <...>
Subject: Re: [farmtalking] Re. Fw RSPCA 30 Jul

Hi Richard

Clarrification was asked for by the person who first drew this to our
attention – this is what he/they have sent back. It would seem that they
were involved (not sure what level) regarding consultation of this document
(see reply below)
.
"http://www.defra.gov.uk/animalh/welfare/farmed/on-farm.htm
gives the guidance notes.
The Draft animal welfare bill which we have consulted on does not mention
the approved prosecutor Status but reading page 33 of the Draft shows that
there will be an appointment of Inspectors by local Authority but shall have
guidance issued by the Secretary of State ( who issued the Approved
prosecutor Status.
It does not take much working out that the appointment of Inspectors will be
taken up by the RSPCA giving them total control of most if not all aspects
of the New Animal Welfare Bill.
This is the serious concern amongst many Pet and companion animal keepers."

Hope this helps
Andy Meads

Yes please do cross post this message – and many of us on this board do have
companion animals etc etc as well as livestock. After seeing the horrors
of fmd we would be foolish to think 'this could never happen to our
animals'! Plus we are all already aware that that legislation is in place
for DEFRA to seize any animal without our consent if a disease should
break-out and threaten other animal life, or human life.

Thanks
Coleen

----- Original Message -----
From: <...>
To: <...>
Sent: Sunday, August 01, 2004 10:41 AM
Subject: [farmtalking] Re. Fw RSPCA 30 Jul

Colleen is quite right in bringing to our attention the proposed new

powers of the RSPCA. Quite illegal I would have thought. They are a
registered charity and we must now challenge their charitable status. As
political lobby groups, they, the RSPB and others, are alrady in a doubtful
position.

As owner/manager of a neighbouring, and allied site can I bring my group

to your attention? This RSPCA business is outside our remit, but I will post
it on our site nevertheless.

www.smartgroups.com/groups/conservationwatch

Ricgard Mawdsley.

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Originally from: David Oakes
                        
Hi Coleen,
Thanks for keeping up the good work.I now have a community
farm up and running, and I will let all the good people know what is going on here.And I will try and get my local paper in on the act,there is some local shows comming up, I will try and get a petition up and running ,thanks Coleen.
 David Oakes
 Hearts of Britain
 Offerton Community Farm
 A Tribute to Those Animals Lost to FMD

From: "Coleen Taylor" <...>
Date: 2004/08/01 Sun AM 09:54:22 GMT
To: <...>
Subject: Re: [farmtalking] Re. Fw RSPCA 30 Jul

Hi Richard

Clarrification was asked for by the person who first drew this to our
attention – this is what he/they have sent back. It would seem that they
were involved (not sure what level) regarding consultation of this document
(see reply below)
.
"http://www.defra.gov.uk/animalh/welfare/farmed/on-farm.htm
gives the guidance notes.
The Draft animal welfare bill which we have consulted on does not mention
the approved prosecutor Status but reading page 33 of the Draft shows that
there will be an appointment of Inspectors by local Authority but shall have
guidance issued by the Secretary of State ( who issued the Approved
prosecutor Status.
It does not take much working out that the appointment of Inspectors will be
taken up by the RSPCA giving them total control of most if not all aspects
of the New Animal Welfare Bill.
This is the serious concern amongst many Pet and companion animal keepers."

Hope this helps
Andy Meads

Yes please do cross post this message – and many of us on this board do have
companion animals etc etc as well as livestock. After seeing the horrors
of fmd we would be foolish to think 'this could never happen to our
animals'! Plus we are all already aware that that legislation is in place
for DEFRA to seize any animal without our consent if a disease should
break-out and threaten other animal life, or human life.

Thanks
Coleen

----- Original Message -----
From: <...>
To: <...>
Sent: Sunday, August 01, 2004 10:41 AM
Subject: [farmtalking] Re. Fw RSPCA 30 Jul

Colleen is quite right in bringing to our attention the proposed new

powers of the RSPCA. Quite illegal I would have thought. They are a
registered charity and we must now challenge their charitable status. As
political lobby groups, they, the RSPB and others, are alrady in a doubtful
position.

As owner/manager of a neighbouring, and allied site can I bring my group

to your attention? This RSPCA business is outside our remit, but I will post
it on our site nevertheless.

www.smartgroups.com/groups/conservationwatch

Ricgard Mawdsley.

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Originally from: David Oakes
                        
Hi Coleen,
Thanks for keeping up the good work.I now have a community
farm up and running, and I will let all the good people know what is going on here.And I will try and get my local paper in on the act,there is some local shows comming up, I will try and get a petition up and running ,thanks Coleen.
 David Oakes
 Hearts of Britain
 Offerton Community Farm
 A Tribute to Those Animals Lost to FMD

From: "Coleen Taylor" <...>
Date: 2004/08/01 Sun AM 09:54:22 GMT
To: <...>
Subject: Re: [farmtalking] Re. Fw RSPCA 30 Jul

Hi Richard

Clarrification was asked for by the person who first drew this to our
attention – this is what he/they have sent back. It would seem that they
were involved (not sure what level) regarding consultation of this document
(see reply below)
.
"http://www.defra.gov.uk/animalh/welfare/farmed/on-farm.htm
gives the guidance notes.
The Draft animal welfare bill which we have consulted on does not mention
the approved prosecutor Status but reading page 33 of the Draft shows that
there will be an appointment of Inspectors by local Authority but shall have
guidance issued by the Secretary of State ( who issued the Approved
prosecutor Status.
It does not take much working out that the appointment of Inspectors will be
taken up by the RSPCA giving them total control of most if not all aspects
of the New Animal Welfare Bill.
This is the serious concern amongst many Pet and companion animal keepers."

Hope this helps
Andy Meads

Yes please do cross post this message – and many of us on this board do have
companion animals etc etc as well as livestock. After seeing the horrors
of fmd we would be foolish to think 'this could never happen to our
animals'! Plus we are all already aware that that legislation is in place
for DEFRA to seize any animal without our consent if a disease should
break-out and threaten other animal life, or human life.

Thanks
Coleen

----- Original Message -----
From: <...>
To: <...>
Sent: Sunday, August 01, 2004 10:41 AM
Subject: [farmtalking] Re. Fw RSPCA 30 Jul

Colleen is quite right in bringing to our attention the proposed new

powers of the RSPCA. Quite illegal I would have thought. They are a
registered charity and we must now challenge their charitable status. As
political lobby groups, they, the RSPB and others, are alrady in a doubtful
position.

As owner/manager of a neighbouring, and allied site can I bring my group

to your attention? This RSPCA business is outside our remit, but I will post
it on our site nevertheless.

www.smartgroups.com/groups/conservationwatch

Ricgard Mawdsley.

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