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Originally from: frances fish
                        
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Hi farmtalking,

Frances stopped by the This is Worcestershire
website and suggested that you visit the following URL:

http://www.thisisworcester.co.uk/worcestershire/worcester/news/WEN_NEWS_LATEST12.html

Here is their message....

Is there no end to their vindictiveness ?

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Originally from: Pat Gardiner
                        
Oh Dear! Well we all know the answer to this, but Frances and I suspect rather more.

We can tell you that the vet I caught faking blood tests during CSF, was also caught by Frances during FMD. That is a matter of public record. We both complained....and were ignored – in my case threatened too.

There is possibly a link to TB too, the circumstancial evidence is worrying, aside from the fact that half the SVS are certifiable lunatics and most of the remaining half crooks.

I don't know whether Frances can or wants to say more. No, she should not....but do take notice of her.

Anyway, I have got stuck in across the pond. However improbable, it is all true.

Come on Burkie. The US Cavalry is supposed to appear. Anyway all take a peak at www.go-self-sufficient.com. The **** will probably have it down, so get a copy quick sharp.

Do I hear the sound of cocktail glasses crashing to the ground in Grosvenor Square?

Pat Gardiner

Originally from: Joyce
                        
Hi Frances,
I've been trying to connect to this link since it was posted, but to no avail.... please can you post the article?
Thanks,
Joyce

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Hi Joyce,

Frances stopped by the This is Worcestershire
website and suggested that you visit the following URL:

http://www.thisisworcestershire.co.uk/worcestershire/archive/2003/10/28/wen_news_latest13ZM.html

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Originally from: Pat Gardiner
                        
Hi Joyce

I'm a bit worried about this – for two reasons:

Stuff has been systematically removed from the WWW for the past three years at the behest/instuction of MAFF-Defra. As many here will know, I've usually been able to anticipate what would be removed and have taken copies and privately circulated them.

This time, although, I did know that the SVS are very frightened by the TB spread, I did not expect this to happen and have no copy.

Can anyone reading and near Worcester get into their office get a hard copy and circulate?

This stuff will be needed for the inevitable Judicial Enquiry – and for the immediate protection of the farmer involved.

The SVS are very frightened and consequently will destroy any evidence – and believe me that will include a herd of cattle and somebody's livelyhood.

Sounds far-fetched, but we live in Britain in 2003.

Regards Pat Gardiner

Originally from: frances fish
                        
The Worcester TB story is still on the
www.thisisworcestershire.co.uk site but the url has been changed and is now www.thisisworcestershire.co.uk/worcestershire/archive/2003/10/28/wen news latest13ZM.html

Originally from: Joyce
                        
Thanks Frances and Pat..... when I click on this link or even try the www.thisisworcestershire.co.uk there is no data flowing at all.
However it might be no more sinister than my own computer gremlin! I've now forwarded the links to my gremlin's own computer so will try there later!!!!!!
Joyce
                        

Originally from: Joyce
                        
Thanks Frances and Pat..... when I click on this link or even try the www.thisisworcestershire.co.uk there is no data flowing at all.
However it might be no more sinister than my own computer gremlin! I've now forwarded the links to my gremlin's own computer so will try there later!!!!!!
Joyce
                        

Originally from: lina
                        
Hi Joyce,
Is this the story you could not open? This is what i
get when i click on the link.
Lina

Foot-mouth rebels' battle over cattle
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Andy and Nicola Morris with the daughter Elizabeth

A FARMER from Worcestershire who defied the
foot-and-mouth culling squad has a new battle on her
hands after Government officials ordered her cattle
should be killed over fears they could be harbouring
TB.

Mum-of-two Nicola Morris, aged 41, of Tibberton, near
Droitwich, said the Department for Environment, Food
and Rural Affairs (Defra), is demanding it slaughters
her 60-strong herd, despite her own vet giving it a
clean bill of health.

She is now refusing to let her cows off her farm –
facing the risk of legal action.

Two of her herd were found to be reactive to a
Government tuberculosis test, but Mrs Morris claims
the test is only 50 per cent accurate.

Five other tests proved inconclusive and the rest of
the herd tested negative, she said.

The farmer has been protesting against the decision to
cull her herd for the last 100 days – during which
time none of the animals has yet shown signs of the
disease.

"These animals have been alive 100 days longer than
they should be," added Mrs Morris.

"They should have showed signs of TB by now.

"What appals me is the vet dealing with the case has
not asked to look at the animals once.

"We got our own vet to do a detailed examination and
she said there was nothing that leads her to believe
the animals are suffering from TB.

"This situation with TB is yet another blow for
farmers.

"I think if the taxpayer knew how much money the
Government was wasting on culling perfectly healthy
cattle, they would be up in arms."

Mrs Morris, who runs the farm with her husband, Andy,
43, said the ordeal was extremely upsetting and took
her back to 2001 when she saved her herd from being
killed during the foot-and-mouth outbreak.

She said she was being sensible, isolating the cows in
case there is a possibility they are infected.

No comment was available from Defra as the Evening
News went to press.

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Hi Joyce

I'm a bit worried about this – for two reasons:

Stuff has been systematically removed from the WWW
for the past three years at the behest/instuction of
MAFF-Defra. As many here will know, I've usually
been able to anticipate what would be removed and
have taken copies and privately circulated them.

This time, although, I did know that the SVS are
very frightened by the TB spread, I did not expect
this to happen and have no copy.

Can anyone reading and near Worcester get into their
office get a hard copy and circulate?

This stuff will be needed for the inevitable
Judicial Enquiry – and for the immediate protection
of the farmer involved.

The SVS are very frightened and consequently will
destroy any evidence – and believe me that will
include a herd of cattle and somebody's livelyhood.

Sounds far-fetched, but we live in Britain in 2003.

Regards Pat Gardiner

Author wrote:
Hi Frances,
I've been trying to connect to this link since it

was posted, but to no

avail.... please can you post the article?
Thanks,
Joyce

Hi farmtalking,
Frances stopped by the This is Worcestershire
website and suggested that you visit the

following URL:

http://www.thisisworcester.co.uk/worcestershire/worcester/news/WEN_NEWS_LATEST12.html

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Originally from: lina
                        

Hi Joyce,

Frances stopped by the This is Worcestershire
website and suggested that you visit the following

First published on Tuesday 28 October 2003:
Foot-mouth rebels' battle over cattle
A FARMER from Worcestershire who defied the
foot-and-mouth culling squad has a new battle on her
hands after Government officials ordered her cattle
should be killed over fears they could be harbouring
TB.

Mum-of-two Nicola Morris, aged 41, of Tibberton, near
Droitwich, said the Department for Environment, Food
and Rural Affairs (Defra), is demanding it slaughters
her 60-strong herd, despite her own vet giving it a
clean bill of health.

She is now refusing to let her cows off her farm –
facing the risk of legal action.

Two of her herd were found to be reactive to a
Government tuberculosis test, but Mrs Morris claims
the test is only 50 per cent accurate.

Five other tests proved inconclusive and the rest of
the herd tested negative, she said.

The farmer has been protesting against the decision to
cull her herd for the last 100 days – during which
time none of the animals has yet shown signs of the
disease.

"These animals have been alive 100 days longer than
they should be," added Mrs Morris.

"They should have showed signs of TB by now.

"What appals me is the vet dealing with the case has
not asked to look at the animals once.

"We got our own vet to do a detailed examination and
she said there was nothing that leads her to believe
the animals are suffering from TB.

"This situation with TB is yet another blow for
farmers.

"I think if the taxpayer knew how much money the
Government was wasting on culling perfectly healthy
cattle, they would be up in arms."

Mrs Morris, who runs the farm with her husband, Andy,
43, said the ordeal was extremely upsetting and took
her back to 2001 when she saved her herd from being
killed during the foot-and-mouth outbreak.

She said she was being sensible, isolating the cows in
case there is a possibility they are infected.

No comment was available from Defra as the Evening
News went to press.

http://www.thisisworcestershire.co.uk/worcestershire/archive/2003/10/28/wen_news_latest13ZM.html

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Originally from: Joyce
                        
Thanks Lina! I did eventually read the article on Iain's computer, but at least it is now on our message board for anyone else having a problem accessing it.
Joyce