Italy out to end the corgi menace
Originally from: brentns
A new law that took effect in Italy yesterday brands border collies, corgis and St Bernards as dangerous dogs which children and criminals are barred from owning.
The legislation, passed by emergency decree after a series of pit bull attacks made front-page headlines this summer, places a number of restrictions on ownership of 92 kinds of "threatening" dogs. Understandably, the new category includes dobermanns, bull mastiffs and German shepherds, as well as pit bulls, of which there are about 16,000 in Italy.
But it also embraces Newfoundlands, a breed with a reputation for mildness – whereas Staffordshire bull terriers, and their close American relation, are nowhere to be found on the list.
Minors, delinquents and criminals who have caused harm to people or animals, will all be barred from owning such dogs, the law states. In cases of illegal possession, it provides for the animal's seizure. http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml;$sessionid$1NANMX34ULKPBQFIQMGSFFOAVCBQWIV0?xml=/news/2003/09/15/wdog15.xml&sSheet=/news/2003/09/15/ixworld.html
Originally from: lina
This is so sad. When will people understand that it is
not a breed that is dangerous to people but the way
they are handled. I have trained and corrected dogs
for a long time, i have always said it is not really
the dogs that need tutoring it is almost every time
the owners. Most people when they buy a breed they do
not look at what the breed is like what kind of
problems can be expected when you raise them or what
the best way to teach them the things you want them do
do is. No they only look at the outside, they think
they look better walking on the street with a huge
saint Bernard or they feel safer having a Pitt bull.
So they make mistakes. And for these mistakes, given
time, the dog always has to pay. It gets worse when
people like that get more then one dog. Because the
dog needs a alpha leader it will always turn to
another alpha dog in order to get that leadership when
a human fails to do so. Then you have reached the
point were the dogs start to live by their own
rules/instincts and that is when, as a group, they
become the most dangerous for other humans. It will
lower their willingness to attack or kill fast.
There is one very simple little test to see if you are
the alpha leader in your house, Give your dog
something to eat/chew on, which you know it will like
very very much, make sure your dog is hungry then once
it start chewing try to take it away with your mouth,
if your dog freezes, shows its teeth or starts to
growl that means you are not seen as the leader you
think you are. I must warn never to let a child do
this for obvious reasons.
As a dog lover, trainer and breeder it breaks my heart
to see so many excellent types of dog breeds go to
waste.
Take care,
Lina
Originally from: coleen
So that does that mean all of those breeds will have to be destroyed then?
Coleen
Originally from: brentns
Subject: Re: [farmtalking] Italy out to end the corgi menace
Date: Mon, 15 Sep 2003 10:41:42 +0100So that does that mean all of those breeds will have to be destroyed then?
Coleen
Hi Coleen,
Well it doesn't quite say that yet.. but it's another step in a direction .. with which i think all of us are probably quite familiar by now..
All the Best
brent
CAPS Grieves Deaths of Ecologist and Author Garrett Hardin and
His Wife, Population Activist Jane Hardin http://releases.usnewswire.com/GetRelease.asp?id=138–09192003
Wayne Pacelle, Senior Vice-President, formerly of Friends for Animals “We have no ethical obligation to preserve the different breeds of livestock produced through selective breeding. ... One generation and out. We have no problem with the extinction of domestic animals. They are creations of human selective breeding.” (Quoted in Animal People, May, 1993) http://www.furcommission.com/debate/words2.htm
Believers in animal rights want domestic breeds of animal, including livestock and pets, to be eliminated, while those animals already "enslaved" should be "liberated" from human domination. Wildlife, meanwhile, should not be managed by humans, even if this means overpopulation, habitat damage, and massive die-offs from starvation and disease. http://www.furcommission.com/debate/ownwords.htm
"I don't use the word 'pet.' I think it's specieist language. I prefer 'companion animal.' For one thing, we would no longer allow breeding ... as the surplus of cats and dogs declined, eventually companion animals would be phased out, and we would return to a more symbiotic relationship – enjoyment at a distance."
(In "Just Like Us? Toward a Notion of Animal Rights", Harper's Magazine, August 1988)
"In the end, I think it would be lovely if we stopped this whole notion of pets altogether."
(Newsday, Feb. 21, 1988)
http://www.furcommission.com/debate/words1.htm
Originally from: brentns
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Subject: Re: [farmtalking] Italy out to end the corgi menace
Date: Sat, 20 Sep 2003 06:24:39 +0000Subject: Re: [farmtalking] Italy out to end the corgi menace
Date: Mon, 15 Sep 2003 10:41:42 +0100So that does that mean all of those breeds will have to be destroyed then?
Coleen
Hi Coleen,
Well it doesn't quite say that yet.. but it's another step in a direction
..
with which i think all of us are probably quite familiar by now..All the Best
brentCAPS Grieves Deaths of Ecologist and Author Garrett Hardin and
His Wife, Population Activist Jane Hardin
http://releases.usnewswire.com/GetRelease.asp?id=138–09192003
Garrett James Hardin, a pioneer in the field of population's effect on Earth, died over the weekend along with his wife in an apparent double suicide.
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"They were both members of the Hemlock Society (End-of-Life Choices) and felt very strongly that they wanted to choose their own time to die," said Ms. Clausen.
Autopsies were being conducted on the bodies, and as of Wednesday the results had not been released.
Ms. Clausen said there was no doubt her parents took their own lives. "They did what they wanted to do," she said. http://groups.yahoo.com/group/energyresources/message/41894
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