Disposal of Fallen Stock

Originally from: Joyce
                        
Received today "New Rules on Disposal of Fallen Stock from 1 May 2003 complete with card to fill in and return to say whether you are interested in joining a subscription scheme.
At the moment we in this area have a derogation to continue to bury, but I'm sure that will change in the near future.
For a smallholding the subscription is proposed at £50 a year, otherwise disposal charges as follows:
£90 per cow, £15 per sheep, £12.50 per pig and wait for it....£0.65 per chicken!!!!!!!
I am just so angry, as our animals go down in value, so some jumped up agency wants yet more money from us. Money for living, money for dying. Well I have filled in my card...written in anger and maybe not too well worded....will anyone join me in expressing their feelings?

"Any fallen livestock on this croft will be recycled naturally – not added to the pollution of this planet by unnecessary transport [use of fuel] or rendering [more misuse of fuel].
How you can call yourselves 'Dept of the environment' I do not know – more like 'damage to environment'!!!!
Signed/numbered.....one extremely angry 'stakeholder'. "
                        

Originally from: mona parr
                        
Joyce,
Well done.
They know I havent replaced sheep, so Ive been dropped off mailing list--wondered how they were going to start this.
How will they know you have buried something!!
I seriously think all the 'fun' has gone out of keeping a few animals, the paperwork just turns it all into a chore and a worry in case you forget to send off this form or that!!!
Mona
                        

Originally from: Joyce
                        
Mona,
Considering I am not in an area where burying has yet been banned I was surprised to get this mail drop. How much money has been wasted mailing hundreds of us in the crofting areas?
I'm sorry to tell you that horses seem to be included....for while there is no price mentioned for horses, they are listed as 1 livestock unit = I adult horse.
You are quite right about the 'fun' being taken out of keeping a few animals......
Joyce

Originally from: brentns
                        

Subject: [FMDnew] Disposal of Fallen Stock
Date: Wed, 23 Apr 2003 23:40:05 +0100

Received today "New Rules on Disposal of Fallen Stock from 1 May 2003
complete with card to fill in and return to say whether you are
interested in joining a subscription scheme.
At the moment we in this area have a derogation to continue to bury, but
I'm sure that will change in the near future.
For a smallholding the subscription is proposed at £50 a year, otherwise
disposal charges as follows:
£90 per cow, £15 per sheep, £12.50 per pig and wait for it....£0.65 per
chicken!!!!!!!
I am just so angry, as our animals go down in value, so some jumped up
agency wants yet more money from us. Money for living, money for dying.
Well I have filled in my card...written in anger and maybe not too well
worded....will anyone join me in expressing their feelings?

"Any fallen livestock on this croft will be recycled naturally – not
added to the pollution of this planet by unnecessary transport [use of
fuel] or rendering [more misuse of fuel].
How you can call yourselves 'Dept of the environment' I do not know –
more like 'damage to environment'!!!!
Signed/numbered.....one extremely angry 'stakeholder'. "

That's the Spirit... Joyce!!

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Originally from: David
                        
Mona,

You say: " How will they know you have buried something!!"

Answer – because (with cattle, calves [and horses I think]), they are registered with passports. You are supposed to fill out the death portion on the passport and send it back. So come inspection day you will have to account for the passports you are holding with no animals. I guess that is why they want to tag sheep.

David

Originally from: frances fish
                        
I'm afraid, as usual, Defra's Q & A session raises more questions than it answers. The implications of spreading disease of any sort by this idiocy, and this is becoming an increasing problem, just look at the pig industry, reduced to killing and burying by night, to see what the future could hold. Government wish to ban the hunt if the majority of their party get their way, so why say that carcases can be "disposed of" by this route ? If they are saying that prions can enter an individual (BSE/CJD) by ingestion, why can a possibly infected carcase be fed to dogs ? What research have they carried out to ascertain that risk ? These hounds roam the countrside, in our experience they have no respect for fences, private land or stock. Such a scheme is a very effective way of spreading any potential disease, new or old, very well done and, as usual, well thought out in the impeccable manner we have come to expect. And the sting in the tail ? Funding, if I read correctly, only for 3 years, decreasing during that period. Then farming folks, you are on your own . Frances

Originally from: Farmtalking
                        
Defra have a new questions and Answers page on Fallen Stock – http://www.defra.gov.uk/animalh/by-prods/fallen/FallenSchemeQA.htm

and further info here – http://www.defra.gov.uk/animalh/by-prods/default.htm

Originally from: frances fish
                        
It has come to my attention, via farmers Weekly that it is possible to avoid disposing of fallen stock in an expensive fashion ( e.g. £20 for a dead sheep), by stating, in court, that you cannot afford the charges ! How simple, even an idiot can understand that.H'm, get round that one Defra . O.K. I'm being facetious and vexacious and ludicrous but makes you think, doesn't it ? Frances