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The Govt's proposed new additions to the Animal Health Act

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Originally from: Farmtalking
                        
I have been horrified to hear a few more details of the of the Government's proposed amendments to the Animal Health Act.

They include measures to order the slaughter of livestock that will discourage owners from seeking legal advice that might lead to resisting such an order.

They base the introduction of this measure by saying that farmers who resisted the cull delayed slaughter and so contributed to the spread of the disease.

As far as I know, of the 100 cases handled by one particular firm of lawyers, only one subsequently succumbed to the disease. I am sure that a similar statistic would apply to all the others.

We should also not forget that millions of healthy animals were slaughtered on suspicion, clinical diagnosis, dangerous contacts or the contiguous cull which never had any blood tests taken to determine whether or not disease was present. Without the availablilty of such data their proposal has no foundation in fact or science.

The Minister, Elliot Morley, interviewed on the program continues to propound the myth that even with vaccination, (which he says is still under consideration!), slaughter would be necessary. When will he and the rest of the Government wake up to the fact that vaccination not only 'controls' but can 'eradicate' the disease? It is only their determination to cling to disease free status that makes slaughter post vaccination a requirement.

To attempt to remove the right to challenge slaughter through the Courts must by the methods mentioned, which include a threat to cut a percentage of the compulsory purchase payments to those farmers who resist as well as the obtaining of a warrant from the Court, rather than a Court order as at present, must surely be an infringement of our human rights.

The proposed bill also seeks to readicate scrapie from the national flock. This may seem commendable but the measure they propose is that only scrapie resistant rams should be used for breeding. I hope Jethro or Andrew will correct me if I'm wrong, but I had always thought that mammals could inherit from both parents! If that is indeed the case I see little benefit from removing one gender from the equasion!

Hopefully there will be concerted opposition to the proposed amendments but with such a huge majority, unless there's a massive back bench revolt, I fear the amendments may well be passed.

Jane
                        

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Originally from: coleen
                        
What times we are living in since this Government came into power. They mean to make us 'pay' for daring to stand up to them in the first place.
I am suffering from a cold today how lucky (at the moment) that TB does not see me as a spreader of this nuisance – or else I to would be dispatched by DEFRA! Crazy, isn't it millions of animals (many healthy) all slaughtered for what is a curable preventable virus. Duncan's Mum went and had her flu vaccine the other day – same principle as the FMD vaccine – to protect her, and stop her spreading and passing the virus on! Pure simple common sense – to those of us with a brain.

I to always thought that hereditary diseases could be passed from both parents. But, we should not worry Jane – the scientists know what they are doing . It sounds rather like the lunatics are taking over the asylum of which we are meant to follow.

Is this Bill 100% legal and watertight. Will the people who wish to resist be able to – or will they just arrest us.

Coleen

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Originally from: David Oakes
                        
Hi Jane,
How do we stop this LUNACY what is the procedure for lobbying at parliament.
 David Oakes

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Originally from: Farmtalking
                        
Hello David – Here's the Act and explanatory notes http://www.parliament.the-stationery-office.co.uk/pa/cm200102/cmbills/039/20
02039.pdf

Locate you MP here
http://www.locata.co.uk/commons

A sample letter to MP's is on the 'About Us' page on Farmtalking.com

Best wishes – Jane

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Originally from: Farmtalking
                        
Well done Coleeen! – an excellent letter!
I do hope it gets published and everyone else takes note of your example and does the same! Thanks very much!
Jane

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Originally from: coleen
                        
This is my written article which I am sending out to all papers and mags etc.
Coleen

If this Government has it's the way the 'New Animal Health Act' will soon become law. It will give DEFRA and Veterinary Inspectors the right to enter our premises and our homes and remove any animal they suspect of having either foot and mouth or scrapie, or in their view likely to spread either of them. If you think that this Act is only appertaining to farm animals – then you would be wrong. The New Act will give them the power to encompass all animals. An example might be – that if your dogs ran through a field and some days later the animals in that field contacted foot and mouth, they would then have the legal right to slaughter your dogs as having come into contact with infected animals. Your dogs could be considered as 'dangerous contacts' and likely to spread the virus even more.

With this Act we will no longer have the right or the law on our side to keep them off our premises and protect our animals. This is also just the thin end of the wedge. The Act will also cover other animal diseases, although permission from the House will have to be given for each specific case before they will be able to step in and either remove round up and kill animals. That is at least my understanding of how the Act is worded at the moment.

Slowly but surely our rights as animal owners are being removed. To sit back and ignore this might make it too late. As animal owners and lovers we need to make our views felt before this Act becomes law. If you think this could never happen to you – then think back to some nine months ago. Did the farmers and countless pet owners ever imagine that their animals would be taken from them and slaughtered, many of them healthy and of no risk to anyone or anything. What this Government did then was illegal. Some of us fought them, those of us who knew that what they were doing was wrong that is! Many more believed that the Government was acting within the law and just handed their animals over. Imagine how they felt when they realised they had been lied to.

They had stood and watched all their healthy animals being slaughtered believing that they had NO other choice.

At the moment we still do have a choice – to try and stop this Act becoming law.

Please do not sit back and allow this to happen – take some positive steps today.

Write to your MP and tell them you object strongly to this new Act. Write to Tony Blair stating the same.
Ring your local radio, etc.
Write to newspapers, magazines write to anyone who YOU feel will listen. Whatever you decide to do please ACT now – tomorrow could be to late. Coleen L Taylor

Cumbria
                        

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Originally from: David Oakes
                        
Hi Coleen,
I am with you all the way, will start my battle in the morning.And e.mail some local
newspapers regarding this horrendous bill, this has to be stopped dead in its track.
 Regards
 David Oakes

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Originally from: Chris
                        
Coleen,

I am sending a letter to all the dog and cat mags, also Kennel Club and all the dog clubs I can get hold of which is a lot and also dog sites on web, also going to try and enlist the big pet food superstores help, one of my instructors is a manager at one, though I doubt somehow that they will get involved, it's their business that will suffer if pets were taken in any numbers though, the trouble is as you say is that people are so complacent, we did a quick poll of our members at dog club and I would say 60% said the government wouldn't dare! or Oh they don't mean animals as in dogs and cats! Hopefully I have made them think though. Somehow we need to stir up the huge numbers of pet owners to fight this bill and so help the farm animals owners.

Is it ok if I poach some of your text?

Chris

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Originally from: coleen
                        
Please feel free to use whatever – we are all on the same side!
Just a word I did send my article to some cats mags and they asked me to change the dogs bit to cats!! which made me smile – a light moment in sad times.
I have sent it to several animal welfare organisations (not the RSPCA) just in case they are also not aware of the full extent of this bill. I did advocates for animals, animals aid, CIWF, uncaged and a few more. Did not do NCDL or the blue cross so perhaps we should get them on board.

Coleen

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Originally from: Chris
                        
Thanks, NCDL are pretty good so I will certainly involve them, they are wanting to get me on the talks programme so have been speaking to them anyway, will send out to whoever I can think of the more the better. Chris

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Originally from: David Oakes
                        
Hi Coleen,
I have just e.mailed Mark Bristow from countryfile, and will send a message to
the CPL if you have not done that already.I will put on the site shortly a e.mail
address for newsquest, they own a few newspapers local ones up and down the country.And if we all send them a message, then they know we mean business.
 David Oakes

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Originally from: coleen
                        
Agree it does not matter if we double up.
Coleen

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Originally from: mona parr
                        
Could somebody please help sort my brain out!!!!
Got an ear infection--told to behave myself for a few days!!
No horse riding feeling dizzy.

The following consultation on Animal Disease Control is almost closed--23rd May

<A HREF="http://www.scotland.gov.uk/consultations/agriculture/adcp-01.asp">http://www.scotland.gov.uk/consultations/agriculture/adcp-01.asp</A>

I read:
6. The powers of Scottish Ministers are governed by the Animal Health Act 1981. Since then there have been a number of developments in the science of disease control, the identification of new and emerging disease threats and also heightened awareness of disease risks.

Animal Health Act 2002
41.     Section 19 provides that the Act extends to England and Wales only

Am I the only person who hadnt taken in that Scotland had not adopted the 2002 Act yet!!
 
So this consultation is IT:

27. A possible Scottish Bill to amend the Animal Health Act 1981, so far as Scotland is concerned, and to take new related powers, is likely to include the following:An extended power to slaughter animals for disease control/prevention reasons

30. The intention now is to make the slaughter powers explicit, i.e. slaughter wherever this is necessary for disease control and prevention reasons. Put simply, if animals are at risk of infection then the wider slaughter power would be available as part of a number of measures within the strategy to control quickly, and then eliminate, a serious disease. The proposed new power could include, for example, animals that had been vaccinated against FMD.

31. It is also thought sensible, again to address the possible risk of animal disease spreading rapidly, to be able to extend these wider slaughter powers to diseases other than FMD, for instance the 14 other List A diseases (see Annex A). For example, in the case of Classical Swine Fever, in a densely populated pig area, pre-emptive slaughter of these animals might be necessary to prevent disease spreading.

And so it goes on--any help to respond or please respond yourselves if you havent already done so.
Thanks Mona
                        

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Originally from: Mary Critchley
                        
Dear Mona

I have rewritten the front page of http://www.warmwell.com to bemoan this situation. Poor old Scotland. Will the farmers in Galloway and Dumfries allow this consultation to pass without protest? I also hope the Royal Society is aware of just how little its recommendations are being followed.

I wish I could do more – but my poor mum is very ill and I am only able to do warmwell as a respite from worry at the moment. Like you, my brain is befuddled. I do hope your ears are better soon. Nothing wrong with your eyes. How brilliant you are at spotting things. Wish I could do more.

All the very best

Mary

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Originally from: Farmtalking
                        
Hi Mary!

Plase give your Mother my very best wishes for a speedy recovery and take care yourself and please don't worry too much about not being able to update http://www.warmwell.com as frequently as normal at present. I'm sure everyone will be visiting it just as often as usual for what will be the latest as well as the so very useful archives!

I also wonder if you or anyone else managed to catch Dr. Ruth Watkins on 'Hard Talk' last night, concerning the SARS virus?

As usual, she was so easy to understand as she explained the things that are 'known' concerning virus and not afraid to admit there is a lot that is 'not known' yet!

I only hope the powers that be will listen to her and act on her recommendations more speedilty this time. They're certainly taking their time to adopt them with regard to FMD and vaccination!

Jane

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