Jiglu: Farmtalking: Discussion: Re: the bullying is still happening in Cumbria

Originally from: David Oakes

Hi Coleen,
Its good to here fro you, hope that you are ok.Sorry to here that this bloody
bulling is still going on. I got on board this group just because of that, to try
and support Carolyn Hoff and her five pet sheep.Jesus I am furious, can you give me the Hq, where DERFA are the vets name and I will give them a ring.And if don,t mind me asking, are you ok to take call,s yourself if so can you give me your number and the good people you are trying to protect. If I am correct Carolyn took an aphadavid out on the police to protect her home.Alas it didn,t work in the end where she lived, would it work where you are, it is just a thought for a delaying tactic.If there is anything I can do
please let me know.
David Oakes
Heart of Cheshire

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From: ...
Originally from: Duncan Taylor <...>
To: <...>
Sent: 15 July 2001 09:40
Subject: Re: [farmtalking] the bullying is still happening in Cumbria
Sad, that almost six months into FMD and millions of healthy animals
destroyed that there are still people out there who do NOT know their
rights.
Christine has pet goats and 1 pig. Yesterday she was bullied by a female
TVI to have her animals destroyed after some tested positive. The blood
tests done by a DEFRA Vet were not numbered, sealed – or any of the other
guidelines adhered to.
These animals have been in doors since last Sept, monitored daily, 4 kids
all raised and perfectly healthy – these were not blood tested neither was
the pig.
Their own Vet who is also our Vet and the one who did our blood tests told
Chrisitine to ring us – (there are some good guys – and thank God for
them)!
After speaking to her we rang Jane and the ball was set rolling. At 12.30
last night the final message to Christine the owner was are your exits
barricaded, NO was the answer – then go and do it. She did not understand
how these people can operate.
Duncan has gone round to sit outside the property as when Christine spoke
to
the TVI this morning and told them what Burgess and Salmon had said the
TVI
refused to comment as to what she was going to do. She had intially said
that Christines 4 hours appeal time was well and truly up!!
These people have a mentally disabled son who has had to be sent away to
spare him this – he understands that something is happening and is not
happy!
We have managed to raise a few other people to go and give them support.
We will keep you posted – but hopefully they will get a retest and their
own
Vet has said he will do it.
Been missing from this group – due to personnnel problems but still here
and
still a 'fully' signed up member.
Coleen
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Originally from: David Oakes

Hi Coleen,
Its good to here fro you, hope that you are ok.Sorry to here that this bloody
bulling is still going on. I got on board this group just because of that, to try
and support Carolyn Hoff and her five pet sheep.Jesus I am furious, can you give me the Hq, where DERFA are the vets name and I will give them a ring.And if don,t mind me asking, are you ok to take call,s yourself if so can you give me your number and the good people you are trying to protect. If I am correct Carolyn took an aphadavid out on the police to protect her home.Alas it didn,t work in the end where she lived, would it work where you are, it is just a thought for a delaying tactic.If there is anything I can do
please let me know.
David Oakes
Heart of Cheshire

----- Original Message -----
From: ...
Originally from: Duncan Taylor <...>
To: <...>
Sent: 15 July 2001 09:40
Subject: Re: [farmtalking] the bullying is still happening in Cumbria
Sad, that almost six months into FMD and millions of healthy animals
destroyed that there are still people out there who do NOT know their
rights.
Christine has pet goats and 1 pig. Yesterday she was bullied by a female
TVI to have her animals destroyed after some tested positive. The blood
tests done by a DEFRA Vet were not numbered, sealed – or any of the other
guidelines adhered to.
These animals have been in doors since last Sept, monitored daily, 4 kids
all raised and perfectly healthy – these were not blood tested neither was
the pig.
Their own Vet who is also our Vet and the one who did our blood tests told
Chrisitine to ring us – (there are some good guys – and thank God for
them)!
After speaking to her we rang Jane and the ball was set rolling. At 12.30
last night the final message to Christine the owner was are your exits
barricaded, NO was the answer – then go and do it. She did not understand
how these people can operate.
Duncan has gone round to sit outside the property as when Christine spoke
to
the TVI this morning and told them what Burgess and Salmon had said the
TVI
refused to comment as to what she was going to do. She had intially said
that Christines 4 hours appeal time was well and truly up!!
These people have a mentally disabled son who has had to be sent away to
spare him this – he understands that something is happening and is not
happy!
We have managed to raise a few other people to go and give them support.
We will keep you posted – but hopefully they will get a retest and their
own
Vet has said he will do it.
Been missing from this group – due to personnnel problems but still here
and
still a 'fully' signed up member.
Coleen
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Originally from: David Oakes

Hi Coleen,
Its good to here fro you, hope that you are ok.Sorry to here that this bloody
bulling is still going on. I got on board this group just because of that, to try
and support Carolyn Hoff and her five pet sheep.Jesus I am furious, can you give me the Hq, where DERFA are the vets name and I will give them a ring.And if don,t mind me asking, are you ok to take call,s yourself if so can you give me your number and the good people you are trying to protect. If I am correct Carolyn took an aphadavid out on the police to protect her home.Alas it didn,t work in the end where she lived, would it work where you are, it is just a thought for a delaying tactic.If there is anything I can do
please let me know.
David Oakes
Heart of Cheshire

----- Original Message -----
From: ...
Originally from: Duncan Taylor <...>
To: <...>
Sent: 15 July 2001 09:40
Subject: Re: [farmtalking] the bullying is still happening in Cumbria
Sad, that almost six months into FMD and millions of healthy animals
destroyed that there are still people out there who do NOT know their
rights.
Christine has pet goats and 1 pig. Yesterday she was bullied by a female
TVI to have her animals destroyed after some tested positive. The blood
tests done by a DEFRA Vet were not numbered, sealed – or any of the other
guidelines adhered to.
These animals have been in doors since last Sept, monitored daily, 4 kids
all raised and perfectly healthy – these were not blood tested neither was
the pig.
Their own Vet who is also our Vet and the one who did our blood tests told
Chrisitine to ring us – (there are some good guys – and thank God for
them)!
After speaking to her we rang Jane and the ball was set rolling. At 12.30
last night the final message to Christine the owner was are your exits
barricaded, NO was the answer – then go and do it. She did not understand
how these people can operate.
Duncan has gone round to sit outside the property as when Christine spoke
to
the TVI this morning and told them what Burgess and Salmon had said the
TVI
refused to comment as to what she was going to do. She had intially said
that Christines 4 hours appeal time was well and truly up!!
These people have a mentally disabled son who has had to be sent away to
spare him this – he understands that something is happening and is not
happy!
We have managed to raise a few other people to go and give them support.
We will keep you posted – but hopefully they will get a retest and their
own
Vet has said he will do it.
Been missing from this group – due to personnnel problems but still here
and
still a 'fully' signed up member.
Coleen
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Originally from: Bryn Wayt

Hi Coleen,

So sorry to hear about that trouble poor Christine had to put up with...........that bloody VET wants a jab of some decency and common bloody sense.......I hope she is proud of herself, and her parents get to hear how she conducts her business.

Give Duncan a pat on the back from me please !

It is a pity Tony "I'm taking charge" Blair has lost the plot AGAIN.......how he can get out of bed each day and carry on knowing he has failed the nation like this ? It is beyond belief.

I read months ago, that a Japanese business man who had basically "cocked-up" had jumped out of the tower block, as the honourable thing to do !

Are you there Mr Blair ?

The nation would accept an apology, rather than a jump (debateable) but open your mouth soon and ORDER this VACCINATION programme the NFU persuaded you to drop..........man or mouse ?

One minute you ORDER slaughter across the board as it were, next minute you listen to a few NFU money mouths, and you take their word...........really STUPID !

Swallow your pride Tony, and get this VACCINATION programme under way ASAP mate.

Bryn

Originally from: Nick green

Apparently, DVM has now said they will be killed! Burgess Salmon on case! We are all waiting for something to happen!

Well done Duncan! Hang in Christine!

NICK
CUMBRIA

----- Original Message -----
From: ...
Originally from: Duncan Taylor <...>
To: <...>
Sent: Sunday, July 15, 2001 9:40 AM
Subject: Re: [farmtalking] the bullying is still happening in Cumbria
Sad, that almost six months into FMD and millions of healthy animals
destroyed that there are still people out there who do NOT know their
rights.
Christine has pet goats and 1 pig. Yesterday she was bullied by a female
TVI to have her animals destroyed after some tested positive. The blood
tests done by a DEFRA Vet were not numbered, sealed – or any of the other
guidelines adhered to.
These animals have been in doors since last Sept, monitored daily, 4 kids
all raised and perfectly healthy – these were not blood tested neither was
the pig.
Their own Vet who is also our Vet and the one who did our blood tests told
Chrisitine to ring us – (there are some good guys – and thank God for
them)!
After speaking to her we rang Jane and the ball was set rolling. At 12.30
last night the final message to Christine the owner was are your exits
barricaded, NO was the answer – then go and do it. She did not understand
how these people can operate.
Duncan has gone round to sit outside the property as when Christine spoke
to
the TVI this morning and told them what Burgess and Salmon had said the
TVI
refused to comment as to what she was going to do. She had intially said
that Christines 4 hours appeal time was well and truly up!!
These people have a mentally disabled son who has had to be sent away to
spare him this – he understands that something is happening and is not
happy!
We have managed to raise a few other people to go and give them support.
We will keep you posted – but hopefully they will get a retest and their
own
Vet has said he will do it.
Been missing from this group – due to personnnel problems but still here
and
still a 'fully' signed up member.
Coleen
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