Jiglu: Farmtalking: Discussion: Re: Fear of the Internet

Originally from: Farmtalking

Hi Coleen!

I note your points but...if I remember correctly, there were some posts on the previous thread indicating some dislike and mistrust of of 'on-line' payments which failed and the CTS 'on-line' scheme.

I was hoping to re-assure anyone who had doubts that it can work and work wel!

I have learnt that just because some people can join a message board and post e-mails does not necessarily mean they are completely IT 'savvy'!

Even those among us, like myself, who spend most of our days at the computer don't 'know it all' and are still learning!

If passing on a little info of how we do it and manage to protect ourselves, can help others and give them confidence – surely that's no bad thing!

Jane

Author wrote:
Hi Everyone,
I think it is no bad thing to be able to defend and put across a 'view'
point on a message board. This thread has not degenerated into bad
language. Surely those people on here who know how the system in questions
operates can make their own minds up – as to who is being accurate in their
postings. Prior to this thread, their was very little being posted anyway
(at the moment).
I feel that this thread has once again opened up just how much anger there
still is out there inrespect of DEFRA! and the total lack of trust given to
them.
I would like to ask George (is it)? What first hand experience of Defra he
has? Where in all of this (apart from being a farmer) are you coming from.
Do you own your own farm? What do you farm. Please give us an insight into
your daily work. You perhaps have the advantage over Mark, as you have read
all about him (and he keeps no secrets)..yet (unless I have missed your
posting) tell us very little.
I really do not think that anyone who posts on here – has any fear of the
Internet in whatever capacity they use it for.
Coleen
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Subject: Re: [farmtalking] Fear of the Internet
Dear All,
I do not feel that having confrontations on chat sites is necessarily a
bad
thing, providing the criticism is accurate and does not become 'personal'.
In this respect, I feel that I have had every right to defend my true
position whenever I have been false accused over the last few days.
Inaccurate and
personal comments should be debarred from posting at the start, then no
childish
stupidity is going to ensue.
The core of my issue is not about my own subjective grievances over the
refusal of BCMS to grant a calf passport to me and whether I am prepared
to use the
internet to communicate, but it is about the far more serious and far
reachingdemise of the smaller farmer and the misguided New Labour policy
to
'restructure agriculture' and 'depopulate livestock' as Nick Brown himself
had stated.
Any opportunity for the seemingly legitimate slaughter of livestock has
been
grasped since New labour have come to power – TB , BSE cohorts, the
national
scrapie plan ( or whatever it is called ) and now those late passport
application animals get committed to the slaughter squad. 170 cows a day
are being
slaughtered at bridgewater abbattoir for TB alone – yet nobody is trying
to
identify the true cause – which would put us in a better position to curb
the
outbreak of the disease – same issue with BSE too.
As i have said before, this is an appalling waste of food resources when
we
have so many in the world short of food.
Some of you may have read John Steinbeck's Grapes of Wrath, where the US
gov
literally bulldoze out whole swaths of farmers who could not pay their
rent,
etc. Today we have a similar situation , except it is an insidious
metaphysical
bureaucratic bulldozer that is undermining the very cornerstones of our
businesses and driving us beyond breaking point. No one considers the
psychological stress that one endures whilst trying to keep the everyday
activities of the
farm going, yet simultaneously having to deal with all of this government
contrived mandatory hype. Almost 75% of the farmers have got divorced in
my area
since foot and mouth.
It is all designed to wear us down , until we throw up the towel. It is
breaking the best of us.
I started up farming with one acre in the mid 1970s, and have worked for
every penny I own. I am passionately attached to the small farming
lifestyle, and
am therefore experiencing chronic emotional pain at having to witness the
current state of affairs and the hopeless prospects for our future under
New
Labour and their multinational corporate paymasters. Whilst it might be
the 50–150
acre farms which they want gone today, it will be the 1000 acre folks that
get
targeted tomorrow.
Best,
mark purdey
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