Jiglu: Farmtalking: Discussion: RE: Spinning Swill?

Originally from: Farmtalking

Yes Pat – you may be right! but... the facts are that 'almost certainly' is not good enough!

To surmise that the Govt. or anyone else, actually 'knows and has proof of' the source of either, simply will not do and unless and until someone has it, which I doubt they ever will, there's nothing to be gained by it.

We have to deal with 'absolute' and 'proven' facts as we know them if we are to ensure the events of 2001 are not repeated.

They include above all, 'vaccination'!

There is little doubt that at the very least an apology and/or compensation is due to many for damages caused by negligence/incompetance/illegalities, etc. but the liklihood of receiving either seems very unlikely to me.

Once again I'm reminded of the prayer – 'Lord grant me strength to change the thinks I can change, accept the things I cannot change and the wisdom to know the difference'

Best wishes – Jane

Author wrote:
Waugh's is the hinge on which the whole fiasco swings.
I can assure you that the Private Eye article is right, but it does not go
far enough. There are so many oddities surrounding the whole business to
make nothing about it believable. People present at the trial and who know
the main people involved have spoken to me in confidence too. What they have
to say is horrifying.
As you probably know, whatever you may read elsewhere, I was the man that
blew the whistle on the Chinese fabrication and have the emails to HMC&E
Newcastle on Tyne to prove it, and HMC&E acknowledgment. Those documents
with others are available here for inspection by any respectable person
unconnected with the RCVS, NFU or Government by arrangement.
These documents with many others have been supplied to OLAF – the serious
fraud office of the EC. I'm now making arrangements for them to be provided
to the United Nations.
Britain's government vets have been trying to spark a trade war to protect
their disintegrating reputations – and now according to the UN one third of
the world's meat trade is held up by non-tariff barriers.
What I have never disclosed was the whole story. Maff were so desperate to
pin the blame on Waugh and on infected illegal meat that they were prepared
to go to almost any lengths...and did go to any lengths including very
serious criminal offences.
There is a well-funded non-govermental campaign now under way to try to
prove that huge volumes of illegal infected meat are entering the country.
The logic is faulty and the statistics produced by the Veterinary
Laboratories Agency are laughable.
I would advise anyone who can add two and two together and is reasonably
sceptical to wade through them.
Absolute nonsense deliberately designed to mislead and get the veterinary
industry off the hook.
The source of CSF and FMD was almost certainly legally imported pigs
sanctioned by the State Veterinary Service. FMD travelled from East Anglia
to Waugh and back again.
That is why Maff vets have now been placed under HMC&E supervision in
Britain's sea and airports. That is why the famous two Labradors are getting
fat at Heathrow. The government does know the true source and can't afford
to waste time on bushmeat nonsense. They probably knew in March 2001.
If you recall the army was called in shortly thereafter and Maff abolished.
Recall Blair gave evidence in secret to the Inquiry. Why?
Regards
Pat Gardiner
www.go-self-suffiecient.com
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Subject: [farmtalking] Spinning Swill?
I notice on Warmwell that attention is drawn to the article by Muckspeader
in Private eye and the Jason Podmore case.
Although Govt chose to believe that FMD was initially found at Cheale Meats
in Essex in pigs from Bobby Waugh's farm it was never proven.
However, the then Minister, Nick Brown, ordered the cessation of feeding
swill to pigs nationwide but there has never been proof that the 2001 FMD
epidmic in the UK was initiated by infected pigs from Bobby Waugh's Farm or
from the swill he provided.
In fact, no one knows from whence it came!
The 62 swill producers, forced out of business and as in Jason's case,
forced into bankruptcy by this 'knee-jerk' legislation would seem to have a
good case for compensation but... will they get it?
It may seem the treatment they recieved at the time was 'cavalier' in the
extreme and the fact that swill continues to be produced and fed in many
other European countries, must aid their case, but...I can also see DEFRA
claiming that the decision they made at the time was with what was thought
then was in the best interests of the country. An excuse they are likely to
use and apply to many other criticisms of their decisions taken during 2001
and since!
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