Jiglu: Farmtalking: Discussion: Re: High-horses,lies,subterfuge,trouble-making

Originally from: coleen

http://www.ma.hw.ac.uk/RSE/enquiries/footandmouth/EVIDEN44.PDF

NO objections to selling vaccinated meat and MILK in fact they went on to say that NO special labelling was even required as there was NO risk to the public. If you can be bothered to read this Paul you will see that everyone from the PM, N Brown The Chief Vet Scudamore and all the top leading supermarket bosses attendid this meeting at Chequers on April 12th

It was (as Francis wrote) Nestle who then made TB do a U Turn – he did want vaccination in Devon and Cumbria. But Nestle mindful of their export market (most of their milk gets exported to foreign Countries in dried format as baby powder). applied the pressure – and the rest as they say is history (full story here ) http://www.google.co.uk/search?q=cache:GlXd0odnc9sJ:www.guardian.co.uk/Archive/Article/0,4273,4252824,00.html+nestle+fmd+milk&hl=en&ie=UTF-8

Coleen

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Subject: [farmtalking] High-horses,lies,subterfuge,trouble-making
Decided to alter the title of these exchanges not to sully the name of Fred Brown.
Paul,
To take what you say out of context, which is what you are wont to do. You say you "haven't a clue". Now, you know, and I know that is a misrepresentation of your comment but, at face value, you wrote it, I read it, I regurgitated it so it means something entirely different. Do you begin to get the drift ? Nobody suggested that you do not question, we urge you to do this, despite what you what translated this into. What I said was that you ought to open up your mind and read more and widely about subjects so that you can give what is termed an "informed" view before you dismiss anything that others write as incorrect or unsubstantiated. That in mind, I think the issue of milk from vaccinated cows was almost solely between Nestles and suppliers. Nestles had contracts which they stated would be terminated if dairy farmers were to have their cattle vaccinated, and then some time later, terminated the contracts anyway, thus successfully and totally shafting the poor individuals involved anyway.Much of this info IS, despite what you are implying, documented, and you could, if you took the trouble, research it. But, and I stress this, only if you take ( or make ) the time to do it. That is, of course, entirely up to you, but I think that most readers would discount uninformed opinions and try to correct you and point you in the right direction to the actual facts. Otherwise, we may just think you are sounding off from your high-horse, Paul. Again, I could be wrong, I'm sure ,if I am, you may well try to pick me up before I ever fall down. Hey, told you it must be my turn,
Tally Ho !
Frances ( always willing to learn, but stubborn with it )
P.S. I'm enjoying this, carry on.....................
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