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Originally from: coleen
                        
Hi Francis,

I agree with what you write – I would also add this. I wish that people would not class those of us who perhaps care more and feel that animals are worth understanding as 'eccentric and do gooders to boot'. I see no reason to be hard or cruel to animals. We are all animals we (the humans) just sit in a different order of the chain – but we all have a few things in common. We can feel pain, hunger and thirst.

Can you have respect with out mollycoddling (meaning below Francis) yes I think you can – but respect is not always earned – respect can be born out of fear!

I can give all of the time and love in the World to animals, but I find it very hard and getting increasingly more so to have that attitude with people.

The just for you bit Francis.. This board is so educational

[A] Let's take it in its two parts. The second comes from the verb to coddle, meaning to treat somebody in an overprotective way, as though he or she were an invalid. The verb in this sense is not recorded before the early part of the nineteenth century-its first appearance is in Jane Austen's Emma: "Be satisfied with doctoring and coddling yourself". It looks very much as though it comes from an older sense of the verb meaning to boil gently, to parboil. That sense is linked to caudle, an old word for a warm drink of thin gruel mixed with sweetened and spiced wine or ale, which was given chiefly to sick people. Hence, by association of ideas, coddle took on its modern sense.
The first bit is on the face of it easy enough, since it is from the pet form of the given name Mary (as in Sweet Molly Malone of Dublin's fair city). But Molly has also had a long history in several different but related senses associated with low living. (The name was popularised by Middleton and Dekker's play The Roaring Girl of 1611, which featured a criminal called Moll Cut-purse.) As either molly or moll, from the early seventeenth century on it was often used to describe a prostitute, hence, much later, the American gangster's moll. As molly it was also a common eighteenth-century name for a homosexual man, often in the form Miss Molly, and a molly house was a male brothel (as in Mark Ravenhill's new play at the National Theatre in London, Mother Clap's Molly House).
It's sometimes said that the molly in mollycoddle comes from the sense of a prostitute, but the usage evidence shows that it was really linked to the gay associations. As a noun, it was used particularly of a man who had been over-protected in childhood and so considered to have been made into a milksop or effeminate. For example, William Makepeace Thackeray wrote in Pendennis in 1849: "You have been bred up as a molly-coddle, Pen, and spoilt by the women". The verb came along later in the nineteenth century and was used more like the way we do now.

Coleen

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