Jiglu: Farmtalking: Discussion: Re: To all members

Originally from: lina

Hi Jane,
Giving help and advice is exactly what Burkie has been
doing for a long time, he has also been very
constructive.
I think taking him of this list is overdoing things a
lot. Just because people have a difference of opinion
and speak their mind does not mean that they are
trying to be rude. He let us down you say? well i am
sorry but i don't feel that way, and i do not agree
with that statement. I know that there are others who
feel the same way and have written that off list to
him.
Me myself? i rather state openly how i feel on list.
You think he has been impolite because of the way he
puts things sometimes, if that is so then i am sorry
to have to say that that are more way's to be
impolite. Like you yourself have also done a view
times. Again i am sorry to have to say this but i have
noticed that you get rather stingy when someone does
not agree with you, or see's thing in a different way.
I have also noticed that you yourself after a
difference of opinion have the habit of no longer
replying to the person you are not agreeing with. For
me that is much more impolite then answering and
making a statement, even though that might come over
in a wrong way, like it has now happened with Burkie.
i know i have made some mistakes to in answering
people, for instance, when someone say's thank you for
posting this on list, i tend to say: no thanks, or
something like that, i do not mean that rude or wrong
it is just the way we (us Dutch) talk, we would say:
geen dank, which means no thanks. I do not mean for my
answers to be rude either, but like i told you before
we tend to speak in a much more direct way then you
English people. Americans do pretty much the same,
they just speak their minds in the way they are used
to, there is nothing wrong with that.
I would also like to know why he should apologize to
you Jane, i did not see anything wrong in his replies
to you ever. I have seen him post more information
then a lot of others, information that has been used
by others to. Often even without giving him credit for
it, that "and again" i think is also unpolite.
No offense but that is the way i feel.
Good luck and wisdom,
Lina
Ps, i think Burkie deserves a lot of credit for what
he has done, and he does not need to be scorned this
way.

--- ... wrote:
I started this message board because I thought there
was a need for an easy method of exchanging
information, help and advice for farming families in
the UK that was linked to the web site 'Farmtalking'
All I requested was that members be constructive,
courteous and polite in their postings to the board.
There have been very few occasions when this has not
been the case and a gentle reminder of this request
has always seen a return to the lively debate and
useful info posted by members.
I have never barred anyone from the board (apart
from spam).
However, the recent request to one member – has been
met with further insults.
Not only did I repeat the request for constructive,
courteous and polite postings but another member
requested an apology. That has now been refused.
I am extremely saddened by the fact that Gary
Burkholder (Burkie), who has been a member for a
long time and contributed so much with his messages
and support, has now let us down. Sadly he seems to
have come to the conclusion that we need to be
insulted and berated in order for us to 'act' to
bring about changes for the better in our country.
I think he is mistaken in this attitude as many
contriutors to this board continually 'act' in a
manner that is constructive, couteous and polite and
are working hard to bring about changes for the
better.
I am not prepared to continue to tolerate this
message board being destroyed in this way and the
members being personally insulted or abused by
anyone.
Therefore, until I receive an aopology from Gary
that I can copy to the board and an undertaking that
he will abide by the request concerning fhis future
postings, I have reluctanly barred him from sending
messages to this board.
I apologise to members who have received several
copies of the last message from Burkie and that they
also appear on the board. I cannot delete them as
Smartgroups does not allow deletion of messages once
they are part of a thread.
Jane